00:46:43 The Climate Center: Please see our webpage on The Climate Center's side events at COP 30 - https://theclimatecenter.org/our-work/representing-california-at-the-united-nations-climate-conferences/the-climate-center-at-cop30/ 00:46:59 The Climate Center: Please take our call to action - https://theclimatecenter.org/community-energy-resilience/tell-governor-newsom-stand-up-for-climate-action-at-cop30/ 00:47:24 The Climate Center: Senator Josh Becker's Bio - https://theclimatecenter.org/about/people/senator-josh-becker/ 00:51:11 Mike Bullock: What you just said you want to focus on does not account for the fact that cars are the category that emits the most GHG AND that the CARB Scoping Plan tells us that we must reduce VMT by 2030. 25% with respect to 2018 levels. Telling the Governor to phase out fossil fuels is not very helpful. Demand will be met. We must focus on reducing demand. 00:52:12 Beverly DesChaux: THANK YOU Sen Becker for showing up for CA to let the world know that we are working on the climate crisis and are NOT the president! 00:54:29 Julie: Thank you, Senator Becker! I’m glad you represent our district. 00:56:26 Mike Bullock: CA's big job is to electrify our fleet and reduce driving (VMT). Senator Josh Becker has a job to do. It is to implement CA's official plan to meet SB 32, which corresponds to what must be done: no more than 40% less that 1990 levels, by 2030. 00:57:54 Lisa Oliver: When is California going to upgrade Cap and Invest to Carbon Price and Dividend? 00:58:05 Mike Bullock: YES!! Senator said "reduce demand" for crude. But we are still widening freeways. 00:59:08 Pamela Martinez, The Climate Center: Thank you for joining today’s webinar. Please direct your questions to the Q&A feature. 01:01:56 Beverly DesChaux: Carbon removal has NO example of success and have just allowed polluters to keep polluting! 01:03:28 johnschaefer: Disappointing that Becker has fallen for the carbon removal scam. 01:04:10 Ellie Cohen: Thanks Beverly. Yes AND the science is clear— to get back to a stable climate even with no new climate pollution, we must remove upwards of a trillion tons of past climate pollution already in the atmosphere. We have to figure this out— from nature-based approaches to technological while ensuring no negative impacts on our communities and ecosystems. 01:05:01 The Climate Center: Barry Vesser's Bio - https://theclimatecenter.org/about/people/barry-vesser/ 01:05:02 Sahm: Yes “Carbon Removal” is unclear. Natural sequestration is crucial, but “carbon capture” has proved costly and less than worthless 01:05:34 Nancy Thursby: More trees? 01:06:02 Karl Danz: I like this explainer from EDF: https://www.edf.org/sites/default/files/documents/carbon%20removal%20vs.%20carbon%20capture%20fact%20sheet_FINAL.pdf 01:06:59 Georgia Kelly: Mark Z. Jacobson, a Stanford professor, is a strong critic of carbon capture and storage (CCS) and direct air capture (DAC), arguing they are inefficient, costly, increase air pollution, and divert resources from proven 100% wind, water, and solar (WWS) energy solutions that he advocates for. His research suggests these "carbon removal" technologies often cause more harm than good by increasing energy demands and social costs compared to simply replacing fossil fuels with renewables 01:10:12 Leonia's Notetaker (Otter.ai): Leonia is on a Basic Otter plan with 30 minute meetings. To record longer meetings, upgrade to Pro: https://otter.ai/pricing?utm_source=oa-chat-basic 01:10:30 Beverly DesChaux: There will never be enough trees to reduce what is already in the atmosphere. However, what if we began by banning the whole cutting trees for the christmas debacle only allowing recommended live, potted trees for planting to increase forests/ tree population. and I am with Stanford Prof Mark Jacobson 01:12:03 johnschaefer: California’s cap and trade places a $40 charge per tonne of CO2 pollution but carbon capture and storage supporters admit a tonne will cost upwards of $800 per tonne. If timid lawmakers would increase the carbon price to match the damage pollution causes then some of these ideas like geothermal would be economic. 01:12:53 RAMATABOE's Notetaker (Otter.ai): RAMATABOE is on a Basic Otter plan with 30 minute meetings. To record longer meetings, upgrade to Pro: https://otter.ai/pricing?utm_source=oa-chat-basic 01:15:05 Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: Hi All, Woody Hastings here, Phase Out Polluting Fuels Program Director for TCC. Geothermal is in my issue area. If you would like to follow up about it, please email me at woody@theclimatecenter.org 01:16:43 Woody Hastings, The Climate Center: Also, here is our webinar form last August — a deep dive into advanced geothermal: https://theclimatecenter.org/events/advanced-geothermal-energy-a-round-the-clock-renewable-energy-source/ 01:18:44 The Climate Center: Once again, please see our webpage on The Climate Center's side events at COP 30 - https://theclimatecenter.org/our-work/representing-california-at-the-united-nations-climate-conferences/the-climate-center-at-cop30/ 01:21:12 Beverly DesChaux: After what has happened with rooftop solar compensation being slashed we the EV owner/educators community do not trust/support IOUs with V2G, i.e. with our batteries or any compensation the IOUs might offer, but we do support V2H, V2B, i.e. to serve our own homes to reduce demand 01:24:00 Beverly DesChaux: A group of 20 countries led by Columbia & Netherlands to have their own conference for planning transition away from fossil fuel to meet April 2026 01:24:35 Beverly DesChaux: ok glad you are mentioning this, Barry 01:25:04 Nancy Thursby: Basic economics - reduce demand. 01:27:18 Nancy Thursby: They must have a lot of chargers. I have a hybrid because there are not enough chargers in my area - SF Bay 01:27:24 Ellie Cohen: 83 countries have joined call to end fossil fuels https://earth.org/83-countries-join-call-to-end-fossil-fuels-at-cop30/ 01:28:55 Lisa Oliver: Where's rooftop solar in your list? 01:29:22 Beverly DesChaux: well, CA's population is probably 86x less than China too. haven't done the math on that ☺️ 01:31:16 The Climate Center: Please remember to take our Call to Action - https://theclimatecenter.org/community-energy-resilience/tell-governor-newsom-stand-up-for-climate-action-at-cop30/ 01:32:53 Kenneth Roberts: CA's population is about 1/30th of China's 01:33:16 Beverly DesChaux: Thanks, Kenneth 01:35:47 The Climate Center: Please visit this link to review The Climate Centers report on Carbon Dioxide Removal - https://theclimatecenter.org/carbon-drawdown/carbon-dioxide-removal-in-california/ 01:36:15 The Climate Center: Vinicius Sala's Bio - https://theclimatecenter.org/about/people/vinicius-sala/ 01:43:35 Martha Turner: pardon my ignorance, but could EWR ecosystem be defined. I can make some guesses, but want to understand the context of what Vinicius Sala is saying. 01:44:31 Hannah Greenberg: enhanced rock weathering 01:45:14 Martha Turner: Thank-you 01:47:28 Karl Danz: MRV = Measurement Reporting and Verification 01:47:53 Georgia Kelly: I don’t see a way to save this chat. 01:49:27 Lisa Oliver: IMHO, Terradot seems more like Terrastomp. Humans need to tread more lightly on the planet. This is another large scale change to a sphere system. 01:50:22 Martha Turner: Regarding accessing financing for EWR and measuring the results, how is Terradot and partners, distributing financial benefits to the geographic communities where the projects take place 01:52:13 Barry Vesser: Ken, Fair enough, so if they had 50 times more EV charging then we do, that would be expected. They have 86 times. And by the way, California leads the US by a long shot on this infrastructure, so the US is in even worse shape. 01:53:03 Barry Vessar: Another data point: 48% of new car sales in China are EVs and in CA it is 29%. 01:53:28 SanDiego350: I have to leave at 11:30 so I hope that this webinar recording will be made available. 01:54:52 The Climate Center: The recording, presentation and chat for this recording will be shared after the webinar. 01:55:16 Barry Vesser: We will end promptly at 11:30 am 01:59:31 Martha Turner: Thank-you The Climate Center for another informative and motivating webinar. 02:00:11 Hannah Greenberg: I agree COP is valuable but there should be a modified COP or sub-COP with countries that are willing to meet a certain threshold of commitment 02:01:16 marc: We call them nations in the USA 02:01:59 Georgia Kelly: Thank you for offering this very informative program today. :-) 02:03:10 The Climate Center: Please remember to take our Call to Action - https://theclimatecenter.org/community-energy-resilience/tell-governor-newsom-stand-up-for-climate-action-at-cop30/ 02:03:18 The Climate Center: Click on this link if you would like to be taken to our Save the Date for our California Climate Policy Summit (registration opens in January) - https://theclimatecenter.org/events/california-climate-policy-summit-2026/ 02:03:32 The Climate Center: Please visit this link to review The Climate Centers report on Carbon Dioxide Removal - https://theclimatecenter.org/carbon-drawdown/carbon-dioxide-removal-in-california/ 02:03:51 Barry Vesser: Thanks everyone! Happy Holidays!